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kent

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PostSubject: Select Series Black IPA   Select Series Black IPA Icon_minitimeFri May 27, 2011 11:55 am

I tried the Black IPA at the bayou last night. Very good. Didn't seem terribly hoppy on the tongue, but great flavor. I do have one complaint though. That bottle is insane! Half a gallon geez. It's going to be a rough morning.

Good stuff cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Select Series Black IPA   Select Series Black IPA Icon_minitimeTue May 31, 2011 11:14 am

kent wrote:
I tried the Black IPA at the bayou last night. Very good. Didn't seem terribly hoppy on the tongue, but great flavor. I do have one complaint though. That bottle is insane! Half a gallon geez. It's going to be a rough morning.

Good stuff cheers

I had this a while back and I had pretty much the same impression. And when we walked out Maria had to drive home. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Select Series Black IPA   Select Series Black IPA Icon_minitimeWed Jun 01, 2011 10:03 am

I almost picked a bottle of this up at the 33rd and redwood store, but I decided to stock up on the Bowmore 12 year scotch... it's on sale for only 28$, not bad for a 60$ bottle of scotch. The black IPA was something like 14$ a bottle... and you're right, they were huge bottles. The question is, is it worth the price?
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kent

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PostSubject: Re: Select Series Black IPA   Select Series Black IPA Icon_minitimeWed Jun 01, 2011 12:58 pm

It was absolutely worth the price imo, but it's certainly best for sharing. I like to think it's rare that I get "he's clearly a lush" look, but I'd think the same thing watching a guy sitting by himself and sucking one of those down solo after two other brews.

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PostSubject: Re: Select Series Black IPA   Select Series Black IPA Icon_minitimeTue Dec 13, 2011 6:30 am

I’ve been loathe to get involved in the growing dispute over what to call dark beers that display bountiful hop characters without the bite and flavor of roasted malts. Their recent appearances have generated monikers such as Black IPA, India Black Ale, and Cascadian Dark Ale. The history and genesis of this style, whatever you choose to call it, has bounced between New Englander’s proclaiming that the Vermont Pub & Brewery, founded by the late Greg Noonan, and its then brewer Glenn Walter, created the first version called the Blackwatch IPA, to Pacific Northwesterners noting that it is their hops that give the style its signature character, to beer historians who point to old recipes from Britain from more than a hundred years ago to shut up the Johnny-come-lately Americans.
Without going into great detail about the sordid history of this interesting and developing style area (I do, however, tend to side with the Greg Noonan/Glenn Walter/Vermont Pub and Brewery as pioneers side), I hope we can all agree that the names to date have been off-the-mark. For its part, the Brewers Association has classified the ‘American-style India Black Ale style this way:
American-style India black ale has medium high to high hop bitterness, flavor and aroma with medium-high alcohol content, balanced with a medium body. The style is further characterized by a moderate degree of caramel malt character and medium to strong dark roasted malt flavor and aroma. High astringency and high degree of burnt roast malt character should be absent. Fruity, floral and herbal character from hops of all origins may contribute to aroma and flavor.
The first beer I can recall having that tasted like this would either be the New World Porter (first released in 1997) from Avery Brewing or the Alpha Klaus Christmas Porter from 3 Floyds, both of which I think fit the emerging style quite well. I’m not entirely convinced that the simple inclusion of American hops suddenly leads to the creation of an entirely new style of beer or one that should not be properly housed under the Porter banner, as Avery and 3 Floyds have done. That perspective, I acknowledge, is not likely to carry the day in the present climate.
But in looking at the present names for the style, the deficiencies are as obvious as they are myriad. The style, as far as I can tell (in this day and age, you almost always have to qualify historic approximations), has no connection to India. It is also in no way pale. So a Black India Pale Ale or Black Pale Ale makes no conceivable sense except for the connections to the hops. But we use American hops in a substantial number of other styles without the need of bringing the South Asian sub-continent into the nomenclature debate, so why apply it here? Moreover, as hard as they try, the Cascadian Dark Ale moniker also suffers. Despite weak protestations to the contrary, you guys pretty clearly didn’t invent the style. If you guys want to try and lay claim to the American-style India Pale Ale name, have at it. You’re on slightly surer ground there at least.
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PostSubject: Re: Select Series Black IPA   Select Series Black IPA Icon_minitimeTue Dec 13, 2011 11:38 am

A: The spammers sure are going the extra mile these days, aren't they? https://utahbeer.forumotion.com/t114-ruby-river-resort

B: This one makes some good points -- which are mostly irrelevant. Bottom line: When breweries come up with a name for a product, they're not shooting for logical sensibility or historical accuracy. They choose names they at least believe will be marketable; and, for the time being, "Black IPA!" seems to be working. So we might as well ease up on the nit-picky arguments over semantics, and just enjoy the beer.
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